Tyler Durden - Short Set Methods For Clubs.doc

SHORT SET METHOD IS NOT A SARGING METHOD. It is a method that shakes girls loose, out of difficult situations to sarge them in.

My friends and I have found that you can't consistently run long sets with good results, in bars or clubs with 'regulars'.. They are not accustomed to people coming in and taking over their group.

Instead, just go up, say a quick funny/playful thing, and leave.. do this several times, until the girls come back and approach you.. otherwise they get uncomfortable.. this way is much better, and the only way that I know of to do clubs with regulars.

You will find that if you go around the venue just MINGLING like this, by the end of the night if you've initiated 30 girls, at least 5 will come back to you who are interested, and make it very easy to extract from the club.

This is also VERY useful for *LOUD* clubs, where long sets are not feasible. In fact, its the ONLY way that we've figured out to sarge the super-elite "Guvernment" club in Toronto (where the BIG BOYS go out to play, against the HOTTEST targets.. http://www.theguvernment.com/ )

Twentysix pulled his hot new GF from this club, using this method. Him and Papa went and high-fived EVERYONE in the massive club like 5 times each for four straight hours, until they had girls coming up to them like "high-5 guys! you guys rock!".. And they had girls grabbing them and making out with them and dancing around them like they were the most money guys in the club. Twentysix laid that girl, and posted about it in his LR: taking off a bra report.


SHORT SET METHOD:

-high fives (leave)
-high tens (leave)
-'on the flipside' high-5 (leave)
-thumb wrestling (cheat to win and yell that you beat her, leave)
-whoa whoa whoa.. watch out!! (leave)
-whoa whoa whoa.. watch out girl this shit ain't for free! At least one foot of space at all times.. (then hug, leave)
-SPIN MANEUVRE / twirl (leave)
-block a high-traffic area unintentionally, say 'no passing without the password.. what's the password?' (leave)
-elbow/hip bumping (leave)
-mini cold reads "whoa check out this girl.. she is fiesty" (leave)
-do girls think that scoobie doo is a sexy dog? what about clifford, the big red dog? do you think that garfield is a sexy cat? what about odie? is curious george a sexy monkey? (leave)
-washroom security! (leave)
-pull toques over eyes, pull accessories, snap bra straps (leave)
-ask for I.D. (leave)
-punching match/mercy fight (leave)
-hot hands / slaps (leave)
-'you guys are so cute! powerpuff girls! I'm going to adopt you! (leave)
-finish any of these with "you're my new girlfriend" and walk away

OR, just make an offhanded comment:
-dude, my buddy was an INCH away from getting recruited to Kuwait for army-duty.. HOLY SHIT.. (leave)
-dude, did you see x-amazing thing??? holy fuck! (leave)

You can also STACK a few of these, and then leave. Most often I stack a few and then leave.

Then, when the chicks come re-initiate you, run standard MM, or just extract.

So you basically run 30 second sets, over and over and LEAVE while they still like you and want more.. this is similar to a NEG, because unlike every other guy, you leave even though they're showing IOIs..

Then they'll eventually come to you.. this is much easier than running standard MM in bars with regulars, because it makes them uncomfortable when you linger..

Also, at the end of the bar, situate yourself in a high-traffic area, like in front of the washroom or something, so that way the chicks will have to get by you, and you can run your 30 second sets on them as well.. in short order, you have goofed on everyone in the bar, and you are the shit.

This method is field tested to shit, and we have had many successful sarges using it. Extractions, new GFs, etc etc..

It is playful and fun. Less imposing than STANDARD LONG SET method. Bear in mind we are also College aged guys. So no comments that this isn't sophisticated enough, because it works well for us. I DO think it could for anyone, but I don't know since I haven't walked in other people's shoes.

Use it depending on the situation. It is best for low-key venues with regulars, or for super-loud venues where long sets are difficult due to excessive music volume.



-TD

The coolest thing about short-set method (other than it is the ideal way to PU on the dancefloor of SUPER-LOUD clubs and in many regular joints) is that it works EVERYWHERE. I've used it in classy lounges, college bars, dance-clubs, day sarges, and concerts all with success.

However, in the more quiet areas, you can switch gears from short-set method into playing solid game (via MM, UG-theory, and/or Rapport-Seduce-Sex depending on the situation). Just be ready to switch gears either when they open you or when they give you extremely strong IOIs. For example, if I high-five a girl, and she clasps my hand...and then I spin her...I'll check after the spin for super-strong IOIs, such as massive giggles, licking lips, and reinitation of a conversation...AND if I get these IOIs then I'll stay in set.

The same goes for when I use the silly question openers that I made up for short-set methodology (such as the Clifford the Big Red Dog and Scooby Doo questions...which I use as separate openers for short-set theory btw). Any silly question about pop culture works for short-set theory too. I walked around asking about all sorts of pop-culture cartoons from Popeye to the Powerpuff girls...asking if girls thought they were sexy. The point is just to get the girls laughing...walking away...and then reinitiated the convo after you've attracted them.

Papa

UG-theory? Can you expand on this?

coolwater: ug theory being NOT running good game. pretty much GWM type fluff, so you dont overqualify yourself. no c&F or games etc.

" the game don't wait but im so tight i can wait for the game. "

TylerDurden wrote in news:71251.11101@discussion.fastseduction.com:

>
> -high fives (leave)
> -high tens (leave)
> -'on the flipside' high-5 (leave)
> [etc.]

This is cool stuff, and it addresses the venue / setting I'm hoping to
involve myself more in, so thanks. Could you elaborate on the "(leave)"
part? I don't mean to be obtuse, but is it really JUST walk-up, high-five,
and depart? Or is it actually involving making of eye contact, and some
other stuff, that makes it ... umm, how to put this ... seem plausible for
you to leave? I have a hard time imagining the whole abruptness of it. I'm
guessing chicks are a bit less inclined to feel negative about your game
because you've managed to make it seem fun and entertaining, rather than
threatening or intellectual. Could you elaborate on what subtle state-
management sorts of things you use to do that?